What Does It Do- Learn about the registration of General Organics
General Organics is our new product line of nutrients and supplements. Our blog has recently focused on introducing each product, and the questions have been pouring in. Today I want to explain as much as I can about regulations, the definition of organics, and the General Organics (GO) line.
Regulations that govern fertilizer products are very complex. Each country, and each US state has its own requirements for fertilizer labeling. These rules govern what information must be printed, including guaranteed analysis, ingredients, or warnings. They also govern what cannot be printed, including any statements that cannot be completely proven with scientific facts.
Instead of printing 50 different labels for 50 different states, with an extra one for Canada, General Hydroponics adheres to the most strict of all the rules, some of the most strict rules happen to be in our home state, California. We always desire to provide the state and our customers with the most accurate data. And we are glad to participate in the safeguards to consumers and the environment.
Compliance is not effortless though. It requires diligence and the process is long and involved. We often print new labels with new data, to stay current with the law and sometimes the label compliance holds up the release of new formulas. We have also seen products in this industry pulled from shelves, or production stopped because companies are in violation. Compliance is difficult and expensive and time consuming, and we pride ourselves in our adherence.
So, enter organics into this equation.
In California, products labeled organic have been independently certified by a third party. In the case of fertilizers, one of those parties is OMRI- Organic Materials Review Institute. General Hydroponics is partners with OMRI listed products, including AzaMax. But, presently, the General Organics line of products are not OMRI listed. Because of that, we cannot say that our products are %100 Certified Organic, even if every single ingredient is able to be certified.
General Hydroponics has not listed the products in the GO line for many reasons. OMRI requires our exact recipes. We are not willing at this time to release our exact formulas to anyone, beyond what we already share with the state officals. Also, the process would have delayed the release of these nutrients and supplements for an indefinite amount of time. Additionally, we have seen other players in the industry go on and off the list, and provide false information that undermines the entire system. Eventually we do intend to begin the process, we do want their stamp of approval. Hopefully in the next few years we will achieve this.
Any product in California that is %50 organic is legally allowed to be called “organic based.” Some voices here that are deeply involved with the organic movement consider the phrase organic based to be almost a slur against true organics. Ultimately, we believe that our line will be met with success, that it will help gardens thrive, and that the market will tell us what it wants. So, in the absence of an OMRI certification, and not wanting to use the phrase “organic based” to classify the products as less than completely organic, the decision was made to release the General Organics line with no claims beyond our listed ingredients. The ingredients reflect the contents of the bottles, and those contents reflect our breakthrough in the organic fertilizer market.
I am very happy with the responses to our new line, and I am interested in answering any questions you have about these products. Please leave us your feedback! The nutes and supplements are truly amazing, and I will be providing you with more and more information in the future. Cheers.
Posted: July 8th, 2009 under Organics.
Comments
Comment from Ragnar
Time July 10, 2009 at 1:49 am
If the customer is informed wholeheartedly most of them would go without any certifications at all.
Comment from Pro Gardening Systems
Time July 28, 2009 at 9:02 am
Thanks for this great information! Really explains allot of whats on peoples minds!
Comment from Mike M
Time August 28, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Tigerlilly, what would you say the TDS would be in a fully fortified grow & a fully fortified bloom hydro-organic solution…. I saw that you (Tigerlilly) posted that you were using these new products…Do you have a TDS meter & can you test the resevior ?….and post your test results ? that is, if your using reverse osmosis water..and can get 0.0 ppm reading as a control for a comparison . I am going to say I hope it’s about 0.0-0.09 …..but it’s not a perfect world …I know.
TYIA ….Mike
Comment from GC
Time August 30, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Hi,
I’m very interested in going organic with Genhydro , as I’ve had great success with FloraNova. Will this line up be suitable for Ebb and flow using Hydroton/Higromite mix ( 50/50) as the medium ? I do aerate the res.
Thanks
Comment from Tiger Lilly
Time September 3, 2009 at 9:20 am
Hi! Yes, you can use the General Organics with your system. If you aerate the res with a pump that makes big giant bubbles, there could be issues with foaming. This is because the oxygen causes the microbes to reproduce, and the foam is made up of the actual excess microbes. If the foaming is a problem, try modding your pump or switching to something that aerates with smaller bubbles. Or, add a drop or two of our Bio-Marine. Just like with a pot of pasta water that’s overboiling, adding a drop of oil will bring down the foam. Good luck!
Comment from Chase
Time September 16, 2009 at 2:20 pm
So are these products 100% organic? They seem great, but I just want to make sure.
Comment from Tiger Lilly
Time September 22, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Chase, thanks for asking, sorry it’s so confusing. The only thing I can say that is legally correct is that the state and regulators do not consider them legally organic because they are not registered as such with the appropriate agencies.
Comment from pat
Time October 28, 2009 at 6:09 pm
that was such a crock of s***. your product is not omri quality so they aren’t gonna certify it for you since it’s not good enough to be……
………. oh wellllll
at least it’s organic and probably still worth it
…….
Comment from heyheyhey
Time November 4, 2009 at 4:49 pm
yeah omri certification is a pain in the neck they make you do all these trivial details and charge you an arm and a leg….
Comment from chris
Time November 23, 2009 at 9:56 am
Can you use the new GO line in a aeroponic application. I have a Aerojet system and am interested in going organic but dont want to try and have to replace some of the hardware if the system clogs my lines. Sounds great keep up the great work. Good luck with the political BS. Love your products, wish the AeroFlo used sprayers instead of those lines.
Comment from Tiger Lilly
Time November 24, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Sorry to say, but, no, the GO line is not suitable for aeroponics or deep water culture. It is raw and is not available to plants without being broken down by microbes. But you should totally let us know what kind of recipe you are rocking with your aeroponics!


Comment from W L
Time July 9, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I got my GO and I’m very happy.